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Todd Cordell
Location: Barrie, ON
Joined: 02.10.2014

Feb 21 @ 10:53 AM ET
Todd Cordell: Examining the Michael Stone trade
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Feb 21 @ 11:17 AM ET
I also think Kulak is getting sheltered for the expansion. Realistically if Stone can find his Mojo its a decent price. If not and he is plays like crap maybe he gets signed for a much more friendy contract.

It's a gamble, but one that does not cost a lot and will not have grave consequences come the expansion draft.

But lets see the guy play.
Squilliam-
Calgary Flames
Location: Diagon Alley
Joined: 10.25.2016

Feb 21 @ 11:20 AM ET
GO STONE! Hope he plays tonight! Playing with Brodie will help his game a lot
shoreorrpark
Joined: 04.03.2016

Feb 21 @ 11:23 AM ET
It's actually a great deal for Calgary. He's gonna help out with some of the heavy lifting that Wideman isn't suited for. He cost merely a 3rd rounder and a 5th upon resigning with the team and he's a right shot who can play 24 minutes a game. Treliving is really good at this GM thing.
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Feb 21 @ 11:48 AM ET
It's actually a great deal for Calgary. He's gonna help out with some of the heavy lifting that Wideman isn't suited for. He cost merely a 3rd rounder and a 5th upon resigning with the team and he's a right shot who can play 24 minutes a game. Treliving is really good at this GM thing.
- shoreorrpark


Yeah I think Tre has done a good job.
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Feb 21 @ 12:18 PM ET
Is elliot or johnson going to be getting the majority of starts from here on out? I got johnson on my fantasy team and not sure what to do with him
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Feb 21 @ 12:22 PM ET
Is elliot or johnson going to be getting the majority of starts from here on out? I got johnson on my fantasy team and not sure what to do with him
- ClarksonDavid


If you are wondering how to work a Johnson go to the Oil thread. Its what they do best.
Squilliam-
Calgary Flames
Location: Diagon Alley
Joined: 10.25.2016

Feb 21 @ 12:24 PM ET
Is elliot or johnson going to be getting the majority of starts from here on out? I got johnson on my fantasy team and not sure what to do with him
- ClarksonDavid



they will ride with whom ever is hot- right now thats Elliott, but one bad game and Johnson will be back in
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Feb 21 @ 12:32 PM ET
they will ride with whom ever is hot- right now thats Elliott, but one bad game and Johnson will be back in
- Squilliam-

Im in the final week and i need to win to be in the playoffs. I think ill drop johnson for now
Yeah...Baby
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary , AB
Joined: 01.29.2015

Feb 21 @ 12:52 PM ET
Looks like we're not done yet!!!

Chris Nichols on Twitter: "Friedman on #Flames, trades: "I think Brad Treliving has his hand in a lot of things and I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't done yet." 960"" via http://TeamStre.am by Bleacher Report

https://twitter.com/Nicho...status/834078289756971008
Squilliam-
Calgary Flames
Location: Diagon Alley
Joined: 10.25.2016

Feb 21 @ 1:06 PM ET
Looks like we're not done yet!!!

Chris Nichols on Twitter: "Friedman on #Flames, trades: "I think Brad Treliving has his hand in a lot of things and I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't done yet." 960"" via http://TeamStre.am by Bleacher Report

https://twitter.com/Nicho...status/834078289756971008

- Yeah...Baby



Cmon BT! Trade wideman, get bishop
Yeah...Baby
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary , AB
Joined: 01.29.2015

Feb 21 @ 1:12 PM ET
Cmon BT! Trade wideman, get bishop

- Squilliam-


My bet would be:

Johnny, Money, Verstege
Bennett, Landeskog, Brouwer
Tkatchuck, Backlund, Frolik

Dougie, Gio
Brodie, Stone

Fleury (Rather have Bishop just see this as more likely)
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Feb 21 @ 1:30 PM ET
Pairing for Stone announced as Bartkowski
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 21 @ 1:40 PM ET
My bet would be:

Johnny, Money, Verstege
Bennett, Landeskog, Brouwer
Tkatchuck, Backlund, Frolik

Dougie, Gio
Brodie, Stone

Fleury (Rather have Bishop just see this as more likely)

- Yeah...Baby


Ummmmm no, you are getting Landy and you aren't moving Dougie, Brodie, or a fwd like Bennett?

Get the (frank) out of here
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Feb 21 @ 1:41 PM ET
Pairing for Stone announced as Bartkowski
- rmull905

That better not leave Widedog with Brods...
shoreorrpark
Joined: 04.03.2016

Feb 21 @ 1:50 PM ET
My bet would be:

Johnny, Money, Verstege
Bennett, Landeskog, Brouwer
Tkatchuck, Backlund, Frolik

Dougie, Gio
Brodie, Stone

Fleury (Rather have Bishop just see this as more likely)

- Yeah...Baby

This is fantastic!
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Feb 21 @ 2:02 PM ET
That better not leave Widedog with Brods...
- Clyde334


Wanna take bets?
Saskabush
Calgary Flames
Location: Bridge City, SK
Joined: 10.29.2013

Feb 21 @ 2:03 PM ET
That better not leave Widedog with Brods...


Engellund's with Brodie. That means Wideman and JJ are both out tonight
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Feb 21 @ 2:08 PM ET
Engellund's with Brodie. That means Wideman and JJ are both out tonight
- Saskabush

Yup, Wideload in the press box


Edit: Pending trade with Elliott to Pitt
Saskabush
Calgary Flames
Location: Bridge City, SK
Joined: 10.29.2013

Feb 21 @ 2:10 PM ET
My bet would be:

Johnny, Money, Verstege
Bennett, Landeskog, Brouwer
Tkatchuck, Backlund, Frolik

Dougie, Gio
Brodie, Stone

Fleury (Rather have Bishop just see this as more likely)

- Yeah...Baby



Landeskog's a LW so we'd probably leave Bennett at centre (but I do like the idea of Bennett and Landy together)

Not sure I'd like the price. Rumour was they asked Ottawa for Ceci, 1st, a blue chip prospect and "other assets" for either Landeskog or Duchene. Ottawa promptly told Sakic to go fist himself.

Landeskog should be cheaper...I think if we were to table a similar offer to what they wanted from Ottawa it'd be something like:

JJ/Kulak
Fat Rass/Kylington
2017 1st
Shinkaruk

No way in hell I'd pay any more than that for Duchene or Landeskog. I'd also want to keep Kulak and Fat Rass if I could. Kylington could be a stud, but I think Rass is more of the type of dman we need to round out our top 3.
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Feb 21 @ 2:11 PM ET
The optimism about a statistically awful defenseman on here today is fun.

"He can handle 24 mins a night!"

"He should help Brodie on the second pairing!"



If he keeps Wideman out of the lineup and can keep his head above water as a #6; I guess we can all celebrate that.

Still holding out that we're dealing JJ and/or Widedog.
Saskabush
Calgary Flames
Location: Bridge City, SK
Joined: 10.29.2013

Feb 21 @ 2:13 PM ET
Yup, Wideload in the press box


Edit: Pending trade with Elliott to Pitt

- Kevin R




In all seriousness, I'd be very surprised if we decided to trade goalies at this point in the season. If Elliott can play like he did last game for the rest of the year I think we would be very happy with our goaltending.
Saskabush
Calgary Flames
Location: Bridge City, SK
Joined: 10.29.2013

Feb 21 @ 2:14 PM ET
The optimism about a statistically awful defenseman on here today is fun.

"He can handle 24 mins a night!"

"He should help Brodie on the second pairing!"



If he keeps Wideman out of the lineup and can keep his head above water as a #6; I guess we can all celebrate that.

Still holding out that we're dealing JJ and/or Widedog.

- fry


I'll be happy if he can give us 12 minutes a night with no big turnovers . Don't want him in the top 4 if we can help it.

Dealing both JJ and Widedog would be an early Christmas for me
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Feb 21 @ 2:25 PM ET
Looks like we're not done yet!!!

Chris Nichols on Twitter: "Friedman on #Flames, trades: "I think Brad Treliving has his hand in a lot of things and I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't done yet." 960"" via http://TeamStre.am by Bleacher Report

https://twitter.com/Nicho...status/834078289756971008

- Yeah...Baby


Lol, well, yeah, 5 minutes after that,BT came on to say that he had been having discussions with Arizona since the summer...

I am fairly sure they aren't done yet, but what will be interesting to see is what the costs end up being over the next week or so. Can they move Wideman out? Will they bring in a legit top 6 winger? Is it just bit parts that they acquire (depth moves)?

IMO, I think we see another depth move or two with no major splash before the deadline, Flames walk away with most of their NHL roster intact and there are no takers for Wideman.

Moves I would like to see made (fantasyland) before March 1

Wideman, a protected 1st (17 or 18) and Klimchuk/Shinkaruk to the Flyers for Simmonds (and yeah, maybe something or a couple of somethings extra)

Send 2018 2nd to the Lightning for Brian Boyle

Call up Andersson

Shift Bennett to the wing on Boyle's line.

New lines:

Gaudreau Monahan Simmonds
Tkachuk Backlund Frolik
Bennett Boyle Brouwer
Ferland Stajan Hathaway
13th forward Bouma/Chiasson

Gio Hamilton
Brodie Stone
Bartkowski Engelland
7th D Kulak
8th D Andersson

ride Elliott and Johnson through the end of this year
Squilliam-
Calgary Flames
Location: Diagon Alley
Joined: 10.25.2016

Feb 21 @ 2:35 PM ET
Lol, well, yeah, 5 minutes after that,BT came on to say that he had been having discussions with Arizona since the summer...

I am fairly sure they aren't done yet, but what will be interesting to see is what the costs end up being over the next week or so. Can they move Wideman out? Will they bring in a legit top 6 winger? Is it just bit parts that they acquire (depth moves)?

IMO, I think we see another depth move or two with no major splash before the deadline, Flames walk away with most of their NHL roster intact and there are no takers for Wideman.

Moves I would like to see made (fantasyland) before March 1

Wideman, a protected 1st (17 or 18) and Klimchuk/Shinkaruk to the Flyers for Simmonds (and yeah, maybe something or a couple of somethings extra)

Send 2018 2nd to the Lightning for Brian Boyle

Call up Andersson

Shift Bennett to the wing on Boyle's line.

New lines:

Gaudreau Monahan Simmonds
Tkachuk Backlund Frolik
Bennett Boyle Brouwer
Ferland Stajan Hathaway
13th forward Bouma/Chiasson

Gio Hamilton
Brodie Stone
Bartkowski Engelland
7th D Kulak
8th D Andersson

ride Elliott and Johnson through the end of this year

- rmull905



SIMMONDS
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